A NOTE IN PASIANCE IN NUN OF THEE ABOVE

"Pastance" may be the word from the folk lore etymology, but even in that, a note can apply from the etymology of "pastime" (the position of having a president as our representing leader,) and PLEASAUNCE Fr. (but not one individual's preferrances at all of our expence, but only a sellect few...; then who?)
There are "no laws against Christ", so if somethings are against Christ what will become of those things? JUST B.S'n if its about politics and todays world and history in this country?


Here is a descriptively close(not exact) partial set of info from a related set of politics-

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American conservatism: Facts, Discussion Forum, and Encyclopedia Article
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Conservatism in the United States is a major American
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Ideology
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Republican Party (United States)
The Republican Party is one of the two major party contemporary political parties in the United States, along with the Democratic Party . It is often called the Grand Old Party or the GOP..... Core conservative principles include outspoken belief in God
This article also goes way on, with God
(adding: God is a deity in theism and deism religions and other belief systems, representing either the sole deity in monotheism, or a principal deity in polytheism.... and country
and then Patriotism...

Remember this was a conservative post
liberal next?

Are you the messiah?

This post is not to insinuate, or judge, or to dignify, what seems to me "an idiotic question", but..

..for the eliment of an earlier post Thursday, April 30, 2009 growandknow: Obama ..

and from that origin on the GrowAndKnow.BLOGSPOT excerted:

In My Life Time
He comes not as a THIEF IN THE NIGHT IF.....You WATCH !
Jesus said, "What I say unto you, I say unto all, WATCH!" - Mark 13:37

(ExCerted From the Second Page from this topic , linked to homeworship101 )

Directly to homeworship101 Prelude to "are you the messiah?"

(from second page):

Worldly wisdom does not clarify spiritual matters. The simple messages in Yahshuas’ parables revealed matters “. . . hid from the wise and revealed to the babes” (Mat.11:25). Most teachings of the Pharisees were boring the people with dry, lengthy debates, and confusing explanation of the Scriptures and traditions. The people were attracted to Yahshua’s parables, which contained striking images, dramatic action, and bold character development; all built around universal themes of clarifying and defining the Kingdom of YAHWEH-GOD.
The Parables of Yahshua can be recited in minutes, yet the complex message of His parables was so revolutionary, that no other New Testament personality ever tried to copy this aspect of His teachings. Throughout the ages, thousands of volumes of scholarly commentary have been written t-r-y-i-n-g to explain their simple messages.
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
...Serpents, brood of vipers!
How can you escape the condemnation of hell?”
Matthew 23:29-33
As the reformer Yahshua challenged the orthodoxy. No one had ever before denounced the priests and Pharisees, or dared to question the doctrine of the elders. He expertly quoted the Prophets as He strongly rebuked Judaism’s stiff-necked religious hierarchy - the establishment religionists who never lived the righteous life. They were corrupt. They were blind guides. They were play-actors, and did not live according to the spirit of the Law (Mat.3:7, 5:20, 23:1-36; Luk.11:37-54, 18:9-14; Jno.8:44).
Yahshua challenged the doctrines of the scribes and rabbis, telling them bluntly that they did not know the Scriptures (Mat.22:29). At least eight times Yahshua scornfully denounced them for being legalistic and fourteen times for being hypocritical. They were excellent in reading and quoting Scripture, to keep the people on a tight leash, but in practice they themselves disobey by following their own ritualized customs.
Yahshua detested some of the Pharisees, the religious fundamentalists of the day, because they did not have a heart for the sinners, and were not sensitive to the needs and hurts of the individual. Yahshua taught of YAHWEH’S free salvation by grace, not by law - very revolutionary. And He taught in His Sermon on the Mount that He brought a Kingdom for the meek and for the poor in spirit (Mat.5:5-11), which clearly was just as opposite as you can get to what the Pharisees taught.
Yahshua strongly scolded them because they were always bitter and constantly finding faults, tearing everyone apart. This, the “holier than thou” crowd, by their own attitude, promoted bigotry, prejudice and hatred. He showed them that their religious worship was mere ritual, with emphasis on minor details, “while ignoring the weightier matters of the Law,” such as “justice, mercy and faith.” He taught that the motive of the heart was important, not just the outward action (Mat.23:1-23).
Yahshua chastised them for the many traditions they added to YAHWEH’S Law, making the Law a hardship on the people.
The religious authorities pretend to love you, but in reality they just want to hold you hostage. The Pharisees slowly gained power over Jewish society, by being the overseers of the many elaborate and intricate Jewish oral laws that they required the people to live by. These “traditions of men,” in an effort to micro manage the people, only burden the community, and has reduced righteousness to mere ceremonialism of outward splendor (Mar.7:6-13).
YAHWEH calls HIS people to unity, not uniformity. The simple - common sense - Laws of YAHWEH do not enslave people, it sets them free!
In the Book of John, when Yahshua witnessed the Gospel to Nicodemus a Pharisee, he could not understand Yahshuas’ plainness of speech (Jon.3:1-21). He also admonished them for not being able to see the signs, “You look but can’t see; you listen but do not hear . . .,” (Mat.13:13; Luk.6:42).
The sage would say,
“What is simple, is rarely understood.”

1. (from homworship101.com's page 1 of "are you the messiah?"
   "Throughout time
   over 270 different civilizations around the world
   tell the story of a world flood,
   and of a family in a boat full of animals
   that was saved to replenish the Earth."
   
   "The methods or lessons may vary according to the culture,
   but 'universal' lessons of the sin of pride,
   the moral teachings of “the Golden Rule,”
   the spiritual conflict of good against evil,
   a future 'supernatural being' to conquer evil,
   and an afterlife where man will finally find justice,
   can be found in every major religion."

(page 1 .. as continued..below, as follows-)
YAHWEH'S Covenants are either HIS promises or HIS lies, it is for you to decide. To give hope to Adam and Eve, one was one of HIS first promises was that HE would, sometime in the future, send a 'Redeemer/Messiah' to cancel the curse of sin (Gen.ch.3; The Fist Book of Adam and Eve ch.3, from The Forgotten Books of Eden). This hope of YAHWEH'S Promises, were passed do through the generations to Noah. And the hope of a Redeemer is the central concept in the oldest book of the Bible, Job, thought to predate the Books of Moses.
After the Flood, Noah and the following generations - of whites, Orientals, and blacks - had the same spiritual knowledge of YHWH and the Noahic Covenant (Gen.ch.6-10). When the time of the Tower of Babel came around, Satan began to influence the people and corrupt their spiritual knowledge. After the Tower of Babel, YHWH scattered the people around the world, and their good and bad spiritual stories went with them. Some lost all their original knowledge, but many societies throughout history kept some of the highlights such as the flood, judgment day, the golden rule, a redeemer-messiah who will finally conquer evil. etc. As time went on, different schools of interpretations developed, but some core teachings remained. (Click to enlarge picture.)
The term messiah, means anointed or anointed one. Satan is always mudding the clear spiritual water's, and messiah was a common title used by kings, priests and lunatics in ancient Israel. Just for the record, in our study, Messiah, or in the Greek, Christ, means anointed one of YAHWEH.
But they knew,
one day there would be a special one,
someone who would be unique,
someone who would miraculously deliver them.

YAHWEH still needs someone to take over the Throne of the Earth that Lucifer first failed at, and then Adam. To "redeem" HIS creation, HE has a plan...
At the foundation of the world, HE promised HIS first son Adam that HE will send a Messiah, who would defeat Satan and restore the Kingdom to Earth. Since that time the faithful have wondered when, and how? And since that time, they continued to wait, and watch for the signs.
"Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign:
Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son,
and shall call His name Immanuel.”
- Isaiah 7:14
The Prophets have been talking about it for centuries. The people heard it all before, the promise of a deliverer is a prophecy that goes w-a-a-a-y back. The Judeans did not live in peace, they have been living under the rule of one despicable despot after another - and “the hills are full of deliverers.”
But they knew,
one day there would be a special one,
someone who would be unique,
someone who would miraculously deliver them.
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The Prophets told of His position:
“. . . and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His Name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice from that time forward, even forever . . .” Isaiah 9:6-7.
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The first sign:
A remnant of the Israelite nation must be in Jerusalem (Dan.9:25). The Hebrew people of the tribes Judah, Benjamin and Levites returned to Jerusalem from their Babylonian captivity in 536 B.C.E. When the Judeans returned to their beloved city, Jerusalem, they immediately began to rebuild the city and the Temple. With YAHWEH’S help (told in the Book of Nehemiah) they accomplished this most difficult task in a very short time.
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The second sign:
They need their Temple up and running. In 20 B.C.E. the Second Temple became known as Herod’s Temple when the Roman King Herod annexed Jerusalem and magnificently enlarged the Temple and its surrounding buildings.
The Prophets foretold all of this. Now the stage is set! The Jews must be in Jerusalem, and the Temple would be rebuilt, because this would make “the way” ready for the promised Messiah (Dan.9:24-26).
By now in Roman Jerusalem,
the Prophets have been quiet for 400 years,
and the faithful are still watching and waiting . . .
The Prophets gave a hint as to the area, Bethlehem (Mic.5:2).
The Prophets foretold He would be born of a virgin, from the tribe of Judah, from the root of Jesse (father of King David), someone with a pure heart and pure in her genetic heritage (Gen.3:15, 49:10; Isa.7:14).
Imagine for a moment, knowing of the great conflict between good and evil, and all of what is at stake on Earth as well as in the heavens, now comes to rest on the shoulders of a young Jewish girl. Remember, YAHWEH brought “the flood” because Satan tried to destroy this genetic blood line and prevent this moment in time. This simple young woman will now bring forth the “crucible” in this intergalactic spiritual war - the Heavenly powers are watching closely.
Many young girls quietly wondered about it? What would it take to qualify? What would it be like? Technically speaking: YAHWEH would not touch this sinful planet. HE is aware of HIS own prohibition against fornicating with the humans. But in some mysterious way, YAHWEH will send HIS seed by way of the Holy Spirit. Miraculously implanted, the Messiah will arrive by way of a natural childbirth by a virgin Hebrew girl. But who would it be? Who is worthy? And when will the Word be given? ( Click picture for info, click here for life in ancient Israel )
The Word is given, and the Angel Gabriel announces to a young Jewish girl named Miriam, commonly called Mary in English, “. . . blessed are you among women! . . . thou shall conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son.” The Angel Gabriel told her His Name will be called, pronounced Yah'shua, which means YAHWEH' saves, “because by the power of His FATHER He will save the people from the “Curse of Sin.”

The Messiah comes as salvation in His FATHER’S Name (Jno.5:43). “He shall be great and called the Son of the High; and YAHWEH the FATHER shall give unto Him the throne of His father David; and he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever; and of His Kingdom there shall be no end” (Mat.1:18-25; Luk.1:26-33). (Picture shows the Sacred Names of YAHWEH and Yahshua in the original ancient (Paleo) Hebrew script turning into the modern Hebrew (Masoretic) script. Remember, Hebrew is read from right to left.)
Technically speaking: When the Hebrew name Yahshua is transliterated into English it is written as Joshua, or Yoshua. Jesus is a Greek Hellenist invention.
Scriptures say His people will not deny His Name (Rev.3:8), but the Messiah’s Name along with the CREATOR’S Name stirs great controversies in some circles. How to pronounce it. How to spell it. Should it be used? Does it really matter? It’s too Jewish! It’s a Hebrew Name for the Hebrews only! Space here is too short to review all the supporting details, for more information on the Sacred Names see the links page.
*WARNING: The Messiah's Sacred name is one of the three powerful Sacred Name's opening the way for truth - as much truth as you can stand. There is a severe spiritual penalty for misuse of the Name, Exo:20:7. "Respect is what we owe, love is what we give," and vocalizing the Sacred Name of the CREATOR, the Messiah, and the Holy Spirit must be with respect. If you do not believe in them, then it is better never to say the Name's, (reading does not count), then to use or speak them in a slanderous or disrespectful way.
*BEWARE & BE AWARE: We should be very cautious not to give to man, (or woman), what rightly belongs only to YAHWEH, (Exo.20:7; Rev.19:10). In other words, the Sacred Name's are never-ever to be used for the name or title of a mere mortal.
Miraculously, YAHWEH-GOD by the power of the Holy Spirit sends a spark of life to Miriam, and GOD becomes Man (Luk.1: 34-38). Research shows that He was born on the fifteenth day of Tishri (September-October) during the Feast of Tabernacles. The year of His birth is open to some speculation, it could be anywhere from 4 to 1 B.C.E., with 1 B.C.E. as the best guess.
One must remember when tracking Yahshua’s genealogy, that in Jewish law the mother determines the heritage of the child. If the mother is Jewish and the father is not, the child is Jewish. When the father is Jewish and the mother is not, the child is not considered Jewish. Besides, Miriam’s soon-to-be husband had nothing to do with this miraculous birth.
The Prophets foretold He would be like a Prophet unto Moses. Moses in one of his most specific predictions declared that YAHWEH would raise another Hebrew Prophet in the future whose life would closely resemble his (Deu.18:15-19). In a comparison of the life of Moses and Yahshua of Nazareth, at least fifty elements and events are parallel in both lives. Many of these were beyond the ability of any human control.
Consider the roles that Moses and Yahshua both played: prophet, priest, lawgiver, teacher, leader of men. Both spent their early years in Egypt, miraculously protected from those who sought to put the prophesied deliverers to death.
Both had a Divine mission and taught new truths from YAHWEH, and they confirmed their teaching with miracles performed before many witnesses. Both fasted for forty days and faced spiritual crises on mountain tops. Moses rescued Israel from the dead religion of pagan Egypt, Yahshua rescued Israel from the dead letter of the law of tradition. The people were ungrateful and rebelled against the leadership of both men. The generations that rebelled against them died in their lack of faith, one in the wilderness and one in the siege of Jerusalem in 70 C.E. Moses and Yahshua both died on a hill.
The New Covenant taught by Yahshua is based upon what was written in the Hebrew Testament (Heb.8:8-10), and He began handling His FATHER’S business in the Temple at age twelve (Luke 2:42-43).
Yahshua qualifies as a valid Prophet . . . continue to next page
From the book The Mystical Rites of our CREATOR ISBN 0-9675266-0-4

etamo e`taler
Posted September 21, 2007 at 11:08 am Permalink
ABSTRACT : it has been said that of the many religions working together with their government diplomats, it is thought from governing views- that- none can be recalled of, that rests their bases on any “one line of scripture”; yet with regaurd to the rest of the scriptural doctrins contexts, circumstances can exist that allow that one line to be the truth in the way it was explained, therfore an exeption could be possible to exist in a way that is both legal and against the law; in that while the law in government is of collections to positive productive innervissions, it is the obligation to the community and people within to present how it affects those of which jurisprudence is also the governments to enforce and or to protect…
…no one line of scripture found yet, that represents the entire faith…?
All of the above, of what is over or above and beyond…; to destiny and what we are, or what we were or what will we become,; ..what will become of us all, without notice of many things great or small?

TOBACCO

BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT, DECIDE WHAT YOU WILL, BUT TODAY, AGAIN THIS HAS HAPPENED WITHOUT A FAIR REFLECTION OF CITIZEN CONCERN IN MIND, BUT RATHER THE INTEREST OTHER THAN THE REASONINGS GIVEN APPLY...
WHERE SHOULD A PRESIDENT STAND ON ISSUES OUTSIDE HIS AREAS OF EXPERTISE, OTHER THAN THE EXPERTS OPPINIONS THAT HE IS GIVEN... THAT IS IF ANY OTHER INTERESTS EXISTS OR CAN BE SEPPERATED?
HOW COULD ANY OF US CITEZENS FIND OUT THE TRUTHS?
TODAY, A LAW PASSING AS A LIE IS TOLD SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE IS "NO GOVERNMENT EXCEPTED AUTHORITY" (by rule) TO OPPOSE THE GOVERNMENT'S (NOT THE PEOPLE'S)INTEREST (SO..this "what's best" is and example of "White.Wash.ing"(if I can coin that phrase to mean White House/U.S. Government\Washington D.C. - STATEMENTS THAT DIFFER FROM OTHER TRUTHS) :
Example: TOBACCO
Because the chromosomes of tobacco so quickly enter the human nervous system and adapt so closely to the formation models of the chromosomes that the mix or blend with or to; then you could attach, or attack tobacco users health and insurrance reality, to any health problem that relates to the human nervous system(and who can prove elsewise? 30 YEARS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND MILLIONS OF RATS WERE SPENT{OR EXAUHSTED TO PROVE THAT "1 RAT" GOT CANCER FROM A SPECIFIC CONDITION WITH THE TOBACCO)
TODAYS REPORT
LIE #1 (any figures other than the Governt's figures) More than 400,000 people die every year from tobacco-related diseases, according to government figures. About 45 million U.S. adults are smokers, though the prevalence has fallen since the U.S. surgeon general's warning 45 years ago that tobacco causes lung cancer.
The House, which first passed a similar FDA bill in April, voted 307-97 to endorse the version passed 79-17 by the Senate on Thursday.
(WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING)
President Barack Obama quickly expressed his support, appearing in the Rose Garden almost immediately after the House gave final approval to the bill giving the Food and Drug Administration control over tobacco production, marketing and sales.
LIE #2 (THAT ONLY BY THE FDA/GOVERNMENT CONTROL can THIS BE PERSUADED)
The measure puts special emphasis on dissuading some of the 3,500 young people who every day smoke a cigarette for the first time. It prohibits use of candied and flavored cigarettes popular among young people and severely restricts advertisements and promotions targeted toward youth. It bans use of words such as "mild" or "light" that give the impression that the brand is safer. It requires stronger warning

What can we figure anyway?

Tobacco has had a tough place in its place between authority/government control and individual, citizen, andd subject's usage privelidge. Arguements exist today that are some 3- 5000 year old arguements, or debates, carved in stone tablets of "whether or not to allow the use of tobacco in the temples?"

No "one" has a right to copyright God either, although this is unrelated it is being preached by relgious orginizations that are Christian, I could say in the very least, JESUS could have.
(I wont say what I believe-its not important, right?)
Science has its own views that dictate or outline some fathoms.
Is there a popular science and a forbidden science like a forbidden archaeology?
A popular politics and a forbidden?

So what figures? Impressionists?
Dissuading some of the 3,500 young people A day FROM A "TRY OF ANY TOBACCO PRODUCT" for the first time?
How about 3,500 ADULTS TO SAY every day THAT WOULD HAVE STOPPED ME THAT DAY OR ANYDAY?
How about if it was just something adults did with no advertising or visual usage?
Children would stop and so would the adults who cant see it or smell it either.
God could still.
The problem with that is the need is not always an addiction and is usefulness can be seriously needed at almost any time and place....(, never mind)
Are there somethings we do just because we like the way they effect us?


I got an email today in humor, and the funny thing was, "I had to search to find if it were true".... The Subject was: "Postal Service Recall - Important...."
Message: The Postal Services created a new stamp with a picture of President Obama.
The stamp was not sticking to envelopes. This enraged the President, who demanded a full investigation.
After a month of testing and $1.73 million in congressional spending, a special Presidential commission presented the following findings:

1. The stamp is in perfect order.
2. There is nothing wrong with the adhesive.
3. People are spitting on the wrong side.
end email

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